Did r/ScienceBasedParenting just shut down?

[strange1]

@nupreacher There was a user who claimed *unstated credentials* who posted a very niche study from Canada that started all that stuff. Basically lead to the sub only allowing discussion of bad outcomes for daycare under 3. I proposed that a study about something like that wouldn't necessarily provide absolute truths, and each kid is different and some might actually benefit from daycare under 3. She banned me (under some new rule she had just instated).

 

[mikehamme]

@strange1 That's insane as a generalization. Even from an anecdotal point of view, my super sociable 1 yr old has been in daycare 3 weeks and is way happier lol? And I'd love to read the discussion on that study, and also the methods used

As part of my degree, I had to read a lot of Education studies, and it's crazy how things we get taught as truths in education are based in really strange methodology and tiny sample sizes.

 

[strange1]

@mikehamme My daughter was the same. She is so social and even as a baby she loved it. She's still very attached to her daycare provider.

 

[sandra142]

@strange1 I think that sub and the owner’s moderation practices really started to self select for a certain type of Reddit person

It made it all kinda weird

 

[javier_is_life]

@kellyjk The issue there was that there was an issue with the sub being brigaded by pro-cosleepers who harassed people about it, who then turned out to be mostly multiple sockpuppets, and the mod posted so many anti-cosleeping posts to cause them to use their multiple sockpuppets so they could all be banned. Bizarre tactic but it worked and the conversations on baby sleep have been more levelheaded since.

 

[rewind2grace]

@javier_is_life Bed sharing was banned from being recommended at all. Imo not very level headed.

 

[javier_is_life]

@rewind2grace I disagree. I really liked when that rule was implemented.

 

[rewind2grace]

@javier_is_life For me it’s about harm reduction and giving people the information so they can make a choice themselves.

 

[javier_is_life]

@rewind2grace That wasn't what was happening in the sub though. What was happening was that anyone promoting safe sleep was getting downvoted and having people spew misinformation about the safety of bedsharing. It was tiring.

 

[anndryperez]

@rewind2grace I agree, but I also remember the sockpuckets who were harassing everyone who didn't feel comfortable about co-sleeping.

So, do I believe that co-sleeping can be done in a way that reduces risks? Yes.

But, if allowing discussion on co-sleeping ended up creating a lot of flamewars etc... Then getting rid of them might not have been a bad move.

That said, I do feel that the mod from that sub should have allowed other mods.

 

[rewind2grace]

@anndryperez Agreed!

 

[mommy2littles]

@rewind2grace That would be be the ideal, but a lot of people get really angry by others making their choices themselves.

 

[nyki_t]

@kellyjk Yeah the sub was great but the mod seemed to not be all that familiar with science.

 

[tipsytopsy]

@kellyjk Yes! They went batshit over any mention of cosleeping insisting that there was no safe way to cosleep so any mention resulted in automatic bans

 

[mommy2littles]

@tipsytopsy I once asked what about other cultures with sleeping arrangements that differ from the US, like using hard floor beds etc and I was told any such culture was inferior to the US. I felt that was kind of arrogant.

 

[jsmith123]

@mommy2littles Wow, wtf That is crazy and elitist.

 

[javier_is_life]

@christfollower1993 That's crazy! So we can't even see any old posts? I found searching that sub to often be really helpful for things I had questions on. This and that are my two favorite parenting subreddits.

 

[juneairsbanjos]

@christfollower1993 Oh no!! One of my favorite subs

I just found r/sciencebasedparentALL but it kind of seems like it's just for people who got banned/dislike the main site for not supporting co sleeping...

 

[jeraldine]

@christfollower1993 Nooooooo, I really liked that sub, especially how the flairs were set up.

 

[dennis1209]

@christfollower1993 The moderator was slightly paranoid. She laid traps to “catch” people who were downvoting her and then banning commenters on the posts, convinced she was catching her downvoters. I was banned simply for commenting on one of her trap posts!