Lead anxiety

@musica9 Glad you left that comment. I recently created entire library in my basement from old childrens books, some of then are turning into dust. Collected all the classics from elderly people who donated their old books to kids. Gosh! Thanks a ton! How sad that our good intentions can sometimes bring so much harm :(
 
@learning1 I went down this rabbit hole too, but through research realized lead can be mitigated by making sure your kid has a diet with vitamin C and greens (this stops lead from absorbing); washing their hands a lot especially before eating and sleeping, and; not wearing outside shoes in the house.

With those paint chips, I'd absolutely tell your LL and probably would get a swab kit and do some testing though too. Luckily, the test swabs are pretty cheap.
 
@learning1 Just be aware that she is on Reddit. And she understandibly gets a bit defensive when people poo poo her work.

I have personally found her helpful in limited quanities. I had to unfollow her because I couldn't take some of the tactics she employs. I totally appreciate how near and dear to her heart this is and I truly appreicate her work. But I can't follow her on social media anymore. I didn't like the call outs to random companies, when its clear that like a 20 year old is just running the company socials and she tries to engage and shame them online. I also don't like how her instagram slides make you re-route to her website. I understand this is to increase her website views and make money. I get that and I don't have a problem with her making money. But I can't stand the "Don't you want to know if there is lead in a stanley cup?!?" and then you have to go back to the website to see the results. I wish she would just make a second slide with the results instead of clearly re-routing us back to her website.

So I did have to mute her on instagram for a time and limit the posts I see from her. It was just causing me too much anxiety. My personal response has been to read some of the products that she reviews and make informed decisions from there. For example, she has showed which home tests are more reliable and demonstrates how to use them correctly, which I think is really valuable. So I have purchased those to test our older house. I also clean any paint chips like you mentioned immediately with water. Painting over the lead is IMO the best way to deal with flaking paint. Espeically around doors and windows in an old house. No sanding drywall for us personally because we know the paint is leaded. But we do put holes in the wall for picture frames. I just have my husband wear a mask, my child is not in the room, we vacumm the hole and then wipe it down with a wet wipe. We also jsut founda hepa air filter in a buy nothing group so we might use that. Also if am I going to purchase a product, I will go to her website and see if there is a lead free alternative she likes. I bought some glass dishes she likes when I needed new ones. I bought a glass cutting board she recommended when I needed a new one etc.

But somtimes I make the decision to do something anyway. For example, the stanley cups and other stainless steel cups don't have lead inside where your water is, the button on the bottom is leaded and then they paint over it. So if the pain isn't damaged, there is no possibility for lead. I bought a silicone "boot" that covers the button of the cup to prevent chips to the bottom and I handwash the cup so there's no leaded product going inside the dishwasher and I keep my cute cup. I find her website a useful tool (though I wish she would hire a web developer to make it all look a bit tidier, it definitely looks home made). And I think her heart is in the right place. I just can't follow her on social media. I don't find the "call outs" and public shaming to be very helpful or professional and I don't see that they've ever made an actual difference. If a company is gonig to change, it will be over a long period of time through lots of respectful emails. Some rando on the internet doing "gotcha!" lead tests and posting to socials is not going to change a product and a lot of time I think her sorched earth approach probably gets the hackles up of a company's legal team and they advise to not engage or continue the conversation with her because of legal liability. She is very clearly willing to put in the work, but the "name and shame troupe" is a bit much imo and doesn't seem to have ever worked and it adds to my anxiety.

I have to use her resources in small doses and modify my life where I can. For what its worth, I don't think any place in the world is lead free. I think she just posted a video of her testing bricks in a English pub and it was positive for lead. So even in a country that has "outlawed" lead for 100 years, it can still be found. Lead is in our ground water and in our soil. Things like sweet potatoes and carrots absorb the lead into our food and its been found in salt. Her website will take you down the rabbit hole on those topics. But for me, our family could not give up peanut butter for the glass jar kind like she strongly recommends. Its just not easily available/afforable. We also still eat sweet potatoes in moderation but I peel the skin off. I did purchase some toddler pouches from Serinity because they do test thier soil. So over all, she has made me more aware than I was before. But getting in too deep, was not practical. She is a resource. But she is not the end all be all (and to be fair, she has not claimed to be). Her style is a bit too much of gotcha journalism for my mental health to handle. Sorry to go on a long rant here. This topic is huge and you'll see a lot of opinions. I struggled with this alot durring my PPD/PPA and so I had to find a balance before it got worse for me. She is a Mom who has dedicated her whole life to this topic. I appreciate her work but I also cannot do everything she recommends and I disagree with her methods of communication sometimes. It sounds like you are also a loving mom who is trying her best. We are all in this and trying to reduce lead exposure for our kiddos while also still living in a world very broken in its lead policies. I hope that is helpful to you!
 
@aneskimo Definitely considering! Feels a little annoying since I’m renting but I am curious about stuff like the yard as well so would be good to have peace of mind and hard info
 
@learning1 Hi, licensed lead inspector in the northeast here. If you really want to know where any lead paint is have a lead inspector come out with an XRF. It will shoot through all the paint layers and tell you the lead content. Ideally from there making sure the components that you know contain lead somewhere in one of the layers stay in good condition will do the most to protect everyone (because adults can get lead poisoning too!) Knowing where any lead is is half the battle though.

Avoid any at home test kits though. They're prone to both user error, false positives, and false negatives
 
@learning1 I had a full blown meltdown about lead in the winter. I found some lead dust on a brick wall we had stripped but not completed the project. My daughter is showing classic signs of ADHD. I read a book about ADHD that mentioned lead poisoning and it was like an obsession was flamed. I live in an old house and tested every surface and had my daughter tested and her levels were safe. Yes it is a problem if they inhale or ingest. I suggest just facing it head on and testing the paint and have your daughter retested if you’re that concerned. If you find lead paint, there are encapsulation paints that you can insist on having your landlord use.

I got rid of basically every piece of cool vintage furniture and dishes I owned. I also noticed a local daycare using vintage mugs and brought the topic forward to them and they were very grateful. It is such a tricky path once the anxiety is ignited in you. It important to take care of yourself, mitigate risk but manage anxiety when it starts to unravel. Your kid is most likely not inhaling it or ingesting it. Once the basics are covered, leave it alone and don’t keep at it. Block lead safe momma and other topics on social media once you’ve got it done because it’s like a scab being picked at each time it comes up again.
 
@learning1 SCITUS Know, Understand Rapid Lead Test Kit (30 Swabs)- Suitable for use on Housepaint Results in 30 seconds, Just dip in vinegar to use, each swab detects lead in house painted surfaces https://a.co/d/gEaAmNb

These are the swabs Tamara recommends. They are for house paint only, and will often give false positives if used on consumer goods, but if you're following her socials you'll see her explain that over and over.

You sound like me about a month ago when I found her. I tested my house and it's thankfully lead free, and we've made many changes to what we have in the house, mainly things in the kitchen. I hope your house ends up being okay❤️
 
@strange1 Pretty closely, I guess I’m concerned about lead dust/tiny paint chips getting on his hands and then ingested somehow. Def going to be cleaning more
 
@learning1 I don't think you can get enough lead that way to trigger a blood test. I could be wrong. We know families in our area whose kids have elevated lead from living in a very poorly maintained home that hadn't been sold since 1970 but that is not your facts.
 
@ailsa62 Not according to the EPA. You can't get blood tests or home tests that get to that level of contamination, so we just have to accept we are all subject to that level of lead damage.
 
@strange1 Why should we accept that? It's completely avoidable brain damage. I will never accept that it's ok for my son to have suffered permanent brain damage in the first year of his life.

Tests are much, much more sensitive than you appear to be aware of. The lead abatement contractor we worked with said that if there was as much as a scattered sugar packet in quantity of lead dust in a large room their dust tests would not only pick it up, but flag it as a serious hazard. It would fail a HUD inspection.

Miniscule quantities inhaled or ingested easily cause blood test results of 5 or higher. Most blood tests detect down to 1. Tiny paint chips and dust are plenty to provide this level of toxicity. A large paint chip is enough to cause immediate convulsions and significant permanent loss in iq. I know someone this happened to. As an adult she is barely verbal and very disabled.
 
@ailsa62 I live in a city where there is literally lead dust in the air. We haven't found a way to test our kids' blood below 2.5. We can't buy consumer grade lead tests that work the way you describe. We don't have the money for a lead abatement contractor (and we rent). We live in recently remodeled homes which helps, but I've spent years on this and there is no affordable way to get the information you're describing.
 
@strange1 I'm sorry to hear that, that sounds like a frightening place to live. Don't know what country you're in, but every type of blood lead test that we've gotten here (in the US)- capillary and venous- tested down to 0.9. Never heard of one that didn't. These were just the standard tests prescribed by our ped.

XRF testing was incredibly expensive, but dust testing was very affordable. According to lead safe mama, you can even buy some dust tests on Amazon. This whole ordeal has been a huge strain on our finances. With our son's future at stake however these were things we felt we could not afford not to do. For most residents below our income level there is extensive federal and regional assistance available (again in the US). We were only marginally above the threshold for every program.
 
@ailsa62 I live in San Francisco. I begged my pediatrician to help me get a lead test that went below 2.5 and she said they do not exist. Lead remediation is basically pointless though given the amount of lead just falling off of poorly maintained buildings into the street.
 
@strange1 I have a good friend with two brilliant and well-adjusted children in SF. They're like the kids who you meet and hope your kids will be as good as them. I hope that gives you some solace!

Not sure about your pediatrician... that just seems awfully uninformed. And if your child's lead results are coming back inconclusive because they are below 2.5, well, that's a good problem to have! I know you'd like more reassurance, so would I, but I would rest a little easy just knowing that much.
 
Back
Top