Are any of y’all considering moving out of the country?

[praiseyahweh4ever]

I’m in the US.

While no country is perfect, I feel like there are others that have it a bit better (and safer).

I was thinking my parents home countries of Argentina and the DR. My bf brought up Sweden and Switzerland.

Are y’all considering moving?

 

[katrina2017]

@praiseyahweh4ever somewhere in western europe. most likely spain, the UK, or ireland. we are both dual US/EU citizens, so we’re pretty open though.

 

[praiseyahweh4ever]

@katrina2017 I’m glad y’all have that kind of flexibility. I’m eligible for Argentinian and Dominican citizenship, which would help.

But it seems like my bf is nervous about learning Spanish

 

[unforiven37]

@praiseyahweh4ever Swedish seems harder. Though the nordics are famously amazing for having and raising babies.

 

[bws1989]

@unforiven37 I learned Swedish in 6 months (to a full able talking at school level). It's very easy.

German and French is much harder!!!

 

[mariet9]

@katrina2017 I wouldn't go to the UK. Healthcare here is nonexistent and getting worst. The economic crisis is pushing us out of the list of first world countries.

 

[bygrace98]

@mariet9 From the UK. England specifically. Can confirm we are currently a political and moral shithole. Avoid. Thinking of becoming expat myself at this rate

 

[shaddixmoon]

@praiseyahweh4ever We go back and forth on Japan but will likely stay in the US unless things get significantly worse. Our biggest concerns right now are school shootings and education in general. We are considering home schooling but don't want to deprive the kids of social connection.

Both of us would've killed to be home schooled but don't know if our future child will feel the same way.

 

[praiseyahweh4ever]

@shaddixmoon I’m also scared of school shootings.

What I like about Japan is the safety. I can let my kid be a kid and let them hangout with friends with little worry compared to the US.

However I’m worried about the Japanese academics and how it’s apparently very stressful. The high school you go to is determined by an admissions test you take in middle school if I remember correctly. There’s a lot of pressure to go to a good hs to get to a good college.

 

[shaddixmoon]

@praiseyahweh4ever Yes that's our concern about Japan as well. My fiance isn't as inclined to academics as I am, so if our kid takes after him they'd not do well in the Japanese school system (funny because he's the Japanese one).

I think a good compromise would be for them to go to school until they're old enough to decide if they want home school or not...but still I worry about shootings! I have that anxiety any time I go to a movie theatre or similar enclosed public space.

 

[praiseyahweh4ever]

@shaddixmoon Same about the anxiety. It doesn’t prevent me from hanging out or leaving the house, but I am very aware of my surroundings in public.

I just randomly remembered that there are international schools in Japan, that may have a much more lax feel to it.

 

[norcal]

@praiseyahweh4ever I'm American, but an Australian Permanent Resident. My partner is Australian. At this point I can't imagine raising kids in the US. I miss my family and having kids far away from them would be hard. But I'm forever grateful to have improved access to healthcare, leave entitlements, and not having to stress about the possibility of our future kids being impacted school shootings

 

[holkapolka]

@praiseyahweh4ever My fiancé is from Poland and I'm from the Netherlands, so for financial and political reasons alone the decision was easily made which of the two to settle in. I think if I lived in the US and wasn't taking care of my mum, I would consider moving, after hearing what it's been like raising a kid there vs here in the Netherlands from friends. Of course it has to all work out since it costs a lot and is a lot of arranging! We were lucky Poland is in the EU cause we only had to find a place he could live even temporarily and he could get a Dutch citizen service number and work. If he wasn't from the EU we'd have to deal with visas and such.

 

[hub781]

@praiseyahweh4ever No, Im black. I’ve experienced racism in several countries and wouldn’t want live in any African country long term so I don’t think it’s worth the move.

 

[praiseyahweh4ever]

@hub781 I’m biracial, and so is my bf, except I came out White and he came out Black.

Racism is a concern for me. I’m worried about how my boyfriend would be treated, any family members that come to visit, and my kids because we don’t know how they’ll look. Not to mention the kids will also be Hispanic/Latino.

I do my best to read about the racism in that country from other travelers and expats and see how it compares to the US.

 

[starling]

@praiseyahweh4ever I wish, but we don’t have the means to do so. And no family connections outside the US. For now we’re living in a blue city in a blue state.

 

[ginovat]

@praiseyahweh4ever I’m Canadian but moved to Australia 3 years ago. I want to raise my kids here as I’m a dual citizen because of my dad. For my interests it’s a way better lifestyle (I want my kids to be outside and learning to swim), education though expensive seems better, healthcare is less waits if you go the private route. Four weeks of holidays a year compared to Canada’s 2 or 3 weeks. People here seem to also have better income to take their kids travelling too even if it’s just domestic.

Canada does have the outdoors but bundling up babies from the cold, strollers in snow, winter colds, and the cost of living is way worse for my parent friends currently in Canada.

 

[praiseyahweh4ever]

@ginovat It’s silly but I’m terrified of Australia after seeing all their hardcore versions of animals, like spiders lol

 

[ctrowland]

@praiseyahweh4ever Same. I have aracnaphobia and no way in hell would I be able to live comfortably when there's a chance of seeing a huge monstrosity right outside my door lmao

 

[ginovat]

@ctrowland It really depends where you live! If you’re regional and have a wood pile or garage that’s nice and dark it would be the same kind of environment in North America a spider would also want to live in. I’ve only been surprised once by a scary spider and it was camping, never seen anything in the city.