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@alamaris This page has a good listing of the research Georgetown has done! https://www.crocus.georgetown.edu/

@damacri I think this is an interesting study, but the authors’ point about the external validity of US-based studies to other countries/contexts applies to making choices about childcare in the US. Studies of Norway and Canada, for example, give us good information about what does and doesn’t...

@1stjohn0666 The NAEYC accreditation minimum is 1:4 which is still pretty hard on staff. Imagine taking care of 4 babies at once! I’ve never done 1:6 but I’ve done 1:4 and that was challenging. Unfortunately if you live in a state that allows 1:6 it may be hard to find better ratios.

@1stjohn0666 With an infant ratio of 6:1 I’d absolutely stick with the nanny. I have an associates in ECE and am a big believer in education but 6:1 is just awful for staff and care quality and no amount of education & planned curriculum can make up for what the staff are expected to handle.

@zarvinsacdalan I would leave. If they have 6 babies in a room, I’d that with 1 staff member (1:6 ratio) or 2 staff members (1:3)? I would never put my infant in 1:6 care as an ECE, it’s way above both federal and NAEYC recommendations. But the TV, container usage, phones, and food are all problems.

@christianmiguel Every once in awhile as a childcare worker I’ll run up against the sentiment of “well but do you have 15 experimental design studies showing that 5:1 infant care leads to lower high school graduation rate.” No, I don’t, and honestly I’d be a bit surprised if infant care ratios...

@tgia413 April redshirting does not seem to be common where I am. I’ve mostly only seen it and heard it discusses for kids who are within 4-6 weeks of the cut off date. The research I’ve seen as well also focuses on comparing these very young for grade kids against kids who are almost a full...

@kiritsugu good to know, I will ask around about other aftercare prices. It did just occur to me that this coming school year will be the first time they are trying full day pre-K. Last year it was 8-11:30. So maybe that will change the aftercare set up and prices

@mcewan_15 Do a lot of people work part time or pay for extra care beyond the 3 hours a day? Personally that sounds great to me as both an early childhood educator and a parent but I know other parents who have skipped public preK because it wasn’t full day/full year.

@kiritsugu How much are aftercare costs in your area? I wasn’t sure how much to expect since this is my oldest. We currently pay $325/week for him but that’s with a 25% staff discount - the “list price” is $440. But it’s a very expensive daycare! The on-site aftercare would be $150/week but they...

@damacri From one of the co-author’s other study’s on Norway, cited in the original post paper: Within a sociopolitical context of homogenously high-quality child care, there was little evidence that high quantity of care causes externalizing problems. That’s great for Norway, and great to be...

@damacri But it doesn’t show infants as a separate group - if only a small number of study participants entered daycare

@frozenocean This job would be shifting to 4 days in office (so needing aftercare from 3 to 5, we’ve got a friend with a home daycare who thinks she has room, cost is $200/week). We do know several other families who recommended having a parent handle drop off, which my husband can do in either...

@grampster Yes yes yes! Honestly I have worked places where I would not want to see those centers scaled up to be universal. Quality childcare is so important and I think people often underestimate just how hard (and expensive) that is to provide, especially for infants and toddlers.

@kwellham Interesting, it seems like a lot of sub members rely on WFH and flexing hours to make it work for at least one parent. Maybe that’s a post-Covid thing?

@raisingarrowsmama It depends on the study but two common tools are the Infant-Toddler Environmental Rating Scale (ITERS - there’s a preschool version too but I’m blanking on the name since I teach toddlers) and CLASS. Many studies and surveys I’ve read based on ITERS found average scores of...

@spacecadet3767 Can I ask, did your preschool set up follow the same schedule as K or was it different? One thing I’m considering is that we’ll be switching to this school one way or another in the next two years, since it is also our zone school for K-5, but there also seem to be more aftercare...

TL;DR on Friday we found out my oldest got a spot at the public pre-K (8 am-3 pm, follows school calendar, no bus) and also that my husband got an internal job offer that would significant increase his earnings ($80k to $110k) but he would go from being in the office 1-2 days a week depending on...

@lostsoul_ I have been in situations where I haven’t been able to accept a child at drop off until another staff member arrives, but never that it’s a regular occurrence that parents might not get care. I wonder if requiring drop off by 7:30 is because they want to staff as minimally as...