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@orthodoxdogma ST = Sleep training. An umbrella term that results in behaviour modification (stopping a child from calling out). Strategies are marketed as: controlled comforting, spaced soothing, controlled soothing, camping out, pick up/put down etc. Clever marketing, same objective.

@andee That’s utterly heartbreaking

@bemmmy I hear you. And very much agree on the same approach. I think one thing to note is that we classify bubs as ‘bad’ sleepers, when probably in actual fact most of the time they are just “normal” sleepers. Sounds like you’re doing an incredible job. And how beautiful that he reaches out...

@aeworld 👍🏼 the articles are there, what is occurring is there, and you can take from them what you so wish. No one expects those who have done ST’ing to turn around and backflip actions they have already taken. It’s called cognitive dissonance. And no one here is asking you to either. So I...

@aeworld Did you really read it? It’s a fact they don’t “sleep”. They remain silent. You must think that’s a positive. I certainly don’t. As I said above, the core of what we’re discussing is not about disputing whether or not there is long term damage (which will never be accurately measured...

@aeworld Let me help you instead! Here’s a meta analysis of sleep training studies https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220322-how-sleep-training-affects-babies I don’t think you realise the dispute isn’t necessarily about long term effects. Whilst it is absolutely not the same or...

@aeworld There’s so much wrong with your statement. Do you have an understanding of research methods? Most studies are based on parent reports. Do you know what that means? They rely on parents to report on different outcome measures. Clearly this methodology is bias. In the large study I...

@mercycee Sleep training = An umbrella term that results in behaviour modification (stopping a child from calling out). Strategies are marketed as: controlled comforting, spaced soothing, controlled soothing, camping out, pick up/put down. Clever marketing, same objective.

@armyangel333 I’m sorry you’re triggered by people who are concerned for infant welfare. We have the peak body AAIMHI (Australian Association for Infant Mental Health) who have a position statement that summarises they quote “…are concerned that extinction based behavioural sleep interventions...

@victorbess Fantastic summary. Whole heartedly agree.

@rhemajoy Here you go. You can educate yourself further from a BBC meta analysis on the studies https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220322-how-sleep-training-affects-babies Bonus - Heres another great article by Sarah, Psychology Honours and qualifications in antenatal education...

@rhemajoy If raising scenarios and facts offends mothers, I’m afraid that’s on them to question such methods. We shouldn’t be silent on the topics at hand. People here have concerns for the misinformation that is advertised in an unregulated industry that does a disservice to both children AND...

@rhemajoy The shame you speak of mothers feeling is probably within themselves hearing of things that don’t align with their actions. As someone put it above, the dichotomy causes cognitive dissonance. Most people on this thread are keen to discuss valid factual points and nuances in research...

@armyangel333 Sigh. I can’t even be bothered responding to all of this. Using big words doesn’t make you sound educated. Your understanding of research methods clearly lacks, “Ethical studies to research criminals who were sleep trained”? Really… with so many variables that would be such a great...

@rhemajoy Ok your first point, read above what I wrote again. You can further research brain development in more detail if the brief summary wasn’t enough. And I don’t believe anyone in this thread has used the term “damage”. And do you know why there is no studies/evidence as to said...

@rhemajoy Infants are born with their hindbrain (basic human function and “survival”). Next, the limbic system, develops over the first three years. That’s responsible for emotions and relationships with others. Lastly, the neocortex develops through childhood and adolescence. This part of...

@dancequeen12 Of course not. I’m not sure where you think I was insinuating we shouldn’t put our babies down? That would be ridiculous. As per above, it’s about intent. These parents put their 12wk old babies in a room alone with a picture book for hours, even if they cry, with the aim of...

@tractorken 👏🏼should be as simple as that right!

@proudtobefree Sounds like you’re doing an incredible job ❤️ it sure can be tough around that age. But it must also feel nice providing that affection to your LO

@heavenstudent This is heartbreaking. Utterly heartbreaking