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@tbaby My mom coslept with me. I was in my 30s before I learned the proper tools for independent sleep (otherwisei was a well adjusted kid, independent, etc). I want my child to have all the skills to be as successful in life as possible! My best friend's son is 4 months older than my...

@linav Can we be best friends? 🤣

@kentgladden Its not a flex to be in pain, or lack of sleep, or suffer needlessly. It doesn't make someone a better parent. The issue is when people brag about how much they suffer for their children. I'm sorry that wasn't more clear. No one asked how you gave birth or about your birth. Do...

@linav For. Freaking. Real. No real judgement. But on top of all this, vaginal births laboring in excess of 48 hrs with no drugs. Like, whyyyyyy torture yourself for an imaginary mommy award? I'm old, with a toddler,. Give me the drugs, all the sleep, and I'm not making my own baby food...

@lamberto I just said "unpopular opinion" I wasn't down voted on the patent thread. I see what you're saying though, but I don't believe in being judgemental towards people that don't sleep train. I'm only judgemental towards sanctimommies

@rockhopper72 I'm taking about when I've asked for evidence. There isn't a lot of data regarding sleep training, there isn't even good definitios of sleep training, or what CIO means, like the OOP said. I've asked in previous posts when people claim is abuse. What evidence would you like me...

@lamberto It's supposed to be an evidence based group. People rarely provide actual accurate evidence. I'm speaking in generalities. No one has to sleep train. Literally no one is forcing anyone to sleep train or not. However, it isn't cruel, and it's not abuse. That's the thing everyone...

@grace4nan Yeah. I'm really disappointed that this sub is called science based when it's filled with confirmation bias, anecdotal storues that apply to nothing regarding the subject at hand, and when I've asked for Peet record evidence to back a claim previously, was given the equivalent of...

@quantumcreation I had to fight it too. People saying it's abuse, or harmful is very damaging.

@lamberto The only issue I ever have is when people are adamantly "CIO is not biologically normal" or "I haven't slept in 16 years because I love my child and sleep training is abuse" that kind of sanctimonious BS. I wholeheartedly agree that sometimes a controlled cry or cry it out method...

@rockhopper72 If cry it out "teaches children that their parents will ignore their needs" then why is my child a perfect mix of needy and independent? Exactly how she was prior to sleep training? When she cries, I tend to her when she's awake. When she goes to bed she protests for 5 minutes and...

@godsgatekeeper We used to do pacifier graveyard in the crib. Solidarity! My father dropped the paci on her own when she sleep trained, but she HAD to have one before that. Sometimes I wish we could go back to the paci. Haha. She'll pay with her feet, or blanket, or her pajamas when we or...

@trekdad99 Yeah. I find it would that people think we're throwing a kid into a dark room and locking the door to let them wail. It's literally making sure all their needs are met, and putting them down to sleep. My daughter gets so tired that she knows that if she stops moving she'll sleep...