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@porcupine73 And the fact that the minivan sits lower. All of my older kiddos climb in and out by themselves. And right after birth, its nice to not have to haul the infant carrier up to high like you would need to for the suv height.

@porcupine73 I never saw myself as a minivan mom and now I can’t imagine anything else. We have 4 under 5. We have a 2020 odyssey! We love it. The doors open by remote, the seats slide, all the space- we fit 3 car seats in the 3rd row and an infant in the middle- trunk fits a small cooler and a...