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@unitedmethodistman18 Then I agree with you. 😊 (Sorry, I'm playing whack-a-mole with hardcore restrictionists in my replies. I assumed you were one of them.) I also am wary of crowded places rn, but that's out of a concern for RSV or the seasonal flu, which is much more deadly for infants than...

@unitedmethodistman18 Great, but waiting to do things with family and friends because of Omnicron fears and lack of a vaccine is still unnecessary and not data-driven. It's fear-driven and this sub is supposed to be parents who care most about hard, cold science.

@agent47 I'm not sure many parents are going to feel comfortable giving an emergency authorization vaccine to infants, but idk. Most parents I know are even waiting on full approval for the currently approved vaccine for 5-16. Edited to add: Even best-case-scenerio 5 months longer of...

@jim2010 This is confusing, I've read that it is being pushed back years. There was even a post earlier in this sub to that effect. Interesting.

@christina12345 I find this conversation absolutely ridiculous. We accept all sorts of unknown risks every single day. I'm not going to stop living life with my family because of a possible 1% risk of having a condition that seems to resolve almost entirely within a year. You're welcome to live...

@christina12345 Also, not to be a pill, but the author of the very study you cited literally said this in the article: "Armann suspects numbers might not be that high. Long-COVID symptoms include fatigue, headache, difficulty concentrating and insomnia. He says that other pandemic-related...

@christina12345 There is so much noise on this topic. Here is a much more recent study (mid-November) showing the opposite result, most children recover completely from COVID within a month, and even those with persistent symptoms clear up within a few months...

@christina12345 Can you please cite me a study that concludes long-COVID is pretty common in children? Thanks!

@edwina958 Not changing anything. There is very very little known risk to

@cqw Mixed reporting on this, but even if it takes just 8 more months, that's a long time to further deprive children of normal childhood. Also, the post was primarily about omnicron changing plans, regardless of a vaccine. Parents with vaccinated children are still changing plans. That makes...

@introverteen I'm happy to return to this conversation later, but I have to go right now.

@introverteen How many years of data will you need to be comfortable with long-COVID concerns in children? We have 2 already showing it is extremely unlikely to happen in children. Will it take a decade or more before parents are convinced there aren't sneaky side-effects waiting to pop up...

@introverteen https://journals.lww.com/pidj/Fulltext/2021/12000/How_Common_is_Long_COVID_in_Children_and.20.aspx This study and basically all studies on the subject say it's really hard to tell results and differentiate between long covid and just pandemic over-all effects. To me, that seems...

@introverteen To me this is the same argument anti-vaxxers use. "We don't know what the effects could be, so we are choosing to operate with the worst-case scenario." Again, not scientific. I believe in evidence, not hypotheticals. You cannot see the future and will go mad trying.

@liv2worship And the next varient, and the next varient, and so on until it's a decade later and we are still living with restrictions? I'm not signing up for that, sorry.

@introverteen I understand there is nuance, but most restrictions on children seem unnecessary to me. I'm just encouraging people to take a look at the almost 2 years of data we already have. Oh well. 🤷‍♀️

@introverteen So they're willing to take on the very real, well-studied, scientifically-proven negative consequences of keeping their child isolated? Over a hypothetical possibility? That isn't scientific or evidence-based.

@bethann21 Please, I mean this in the kindest, gentlest way possible, look to the data on whether a COVID infection in a young child is worth depriving them of many joys in their young childhood. I know it's emotional and confusing and scary. But truly, unless your child is severely...

@gypsysoule I made a similar decision, to move back to where my husband's family was instead of living where I originally wanted to pick. We now live 15 min away, very intentionally. I'm extremely happy with my decision. My in-laws are so supportive (after a learning curve,) and I'm never...