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@ronniev That's why I left that sub. The toxicity was too high for me. It was supposed to be a support sub for all working moms, but instead they chose to gatekeep what counts as a working mom as if every woman works the same kind of job with no variation.

@umaid As long as we're going by anectdotal evidence this sort of trauma is not the norm for children in my experience. I've been on a lot of trips with small infants (big family.) Most children just sleep or learn to be comfortable without screaming their heads off. My own child easily does 9...