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@gfbirch I remember the pain. And I'm the dad. I've never been squeezed quite as hard as that before. Through the law of translational pain, that means it was a buttload and that I can just think of it as having kidney stones again, but saying "Hey, I should have another kidney stone, that...

@milz777 I hear there's lots of money to be made in kid-napping services. Edit: I think I have a new client, right after I posted that a couple of guys in suits are sitting out front of my house in a black van.