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@lackswisdom We skipped it because we figured it out we would have payed 400 euros for just 2 more years. The ADAC/ ÖAMTC tests ( germany and Austria) had great review scores for the pallas, even though its a face fronting seat, actually very similar to a rear board. Another point for the...

@lackswisdom We had the cloud Z and that was also our initial plan ( upgrade to sirona Z). With 15 months we upgrade directly to a cybex pallas ( both cars - one pallasS, one pallas i size G) - and we are very happy with it. Cloud Z was very robust, nice materials, easy to use. Its being...